Terry and I have the same great grandfather, Orva Whipple. I thought I might find a photo of him online that would be easy to link to. I didn’t find one but look what did come up.  Just now found that, never saw it before. I paused in making this post and started reading it, looks like this guy was Orva’s nephew. Orva’s brother was Orin Whipple and Charles was Orin’s son. It talks about the famous 50th wedding anniversary, the first ever in Oklahoma. I just printed all 120 pages out and I’m going to give it to Charlie Whipple. Like us, he’s a cousin to that Charles Whipple. How cool that he  mapped out his  life history. Amazing – through the first cars, through the first winds of the dust bowl, through the depression.. you can see the history of America in there.

Anyway… this is what I wanted to post. The main confusion about Whipples is whether any particular motley and scruffy looking Whipple is of John or Mathew of Ipswich or of Captain John of Providence decendancy. The later tend to be much better looking so Terry and I just about have to assume we are his great grandsons.

The following  is from Blaine Whipple’s website and he summarizes it well. He is from the other branch, notice he doesn’t post his photo for obvious reasons. Also note from his description that we were here much earlier. I don’t know why that might be important except if ever in an argument with one of the Ipswich Whipples we might want to blurt out “doesn’t matter, we were here first!”.

Notice how early a settler our guy was, only 2,000 people in the largest colony when he got here. Ok, here’s Blaine’s excerpt:

“Two Whipple brothers and a young Whipple indentured servant settled in the Massachusetts Bay Colony in the 1630s making their descendants among the oldest families in America. There is no known relationship between the brothers and the indentured servant other than the country of origin, England.

The first to arrive was John Whipple, age approximately 15 when he sailed into Boston Harbor 16 September 1632, one of 132 passengers on the 12-week voyage from London on the ship Lyon. When John settled at Dorchester to work off his apprenticeship to Israel Stoughton, the population of the Colony was about 2,000.

Brothers Matthew and John arrived in the fall of 1638 when the population was estimated to be between 16,000 and 20,000. They settled in Ipswich, Essex Co. where they became a part of the hierarchy, assuming leadership roles in church, town, and Colony.

With two of the earliest English settlers in Massachusetts named John Whipple, it became difficult for genealogists in later years to distinguish between them. This has been a problem, continuing even to the present.”

What makes it worse is that both John’s had the title of Captain so you can’t use that to tell them apart. Historians started calling the Ipswitch John “Elder” Whipple. The big difference is that those Whipples joined the church and became the establishment and our line of better looking Whipples were very counter culture, they moved to Providence and became the first hippies.

Well… for what it’s worth that’s the first crazy entry about the Whipples. So glad you guys are doing this site!!

6 Responses to Pertaining to Whipples

  • That’s amazing! I’m glad I married into the good-looking, hippie branch! 😀

    I’ll post a link to that book on the Links page…looks like interesting reading.

  • Had a feeling that counter-cultural thing was stitched pretty deeply into the DNA!

  • > looks like this guy was Orva’s nephew.

    Lessee… that’d be first cousin twice removed, if I read the chart correctly.

    Great find, BTW!

  • You guys rock for putting that relations chart up. I’m going to have to print that out and keep it in my pocket for the next family gathering.

  • Actually, I think you guys are just plain second cousins, both being the great-grandchildren of Orva, the common ancestor (according to the chart).

    I think the once-removed would mean you are one generation removed from each other; twice removed — two generations removed from each other, but in fact, you are of the same generation, so I don’t the “removed” thing comes into play.

    I mean, Terry’s got aunts who are younger than him…

  • What type of cousins are Terry’s mom and my Dad? First, right? Of course. Their fathers, Lester and Raymond Sr. were brothers.

    So Terry and I are one step down from that; both of us on a second stair step down. So second cousins. I may be starting to see the light of day on this genealogy calculus!

    Let make that the term for it, “cousin calculus”. Used in a sentence, “OK, let’s do the cousin calculus on those two”. 🙂

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